The talk of the Apple community

Our conversation with documentary filmmaker David Greelish about his new documentary on one of Apple’s “failures”, Before Macintosh: The Apple Lisa. The discussion into the evolution of personal computing and Lisa’s part in it, why the Apple Vision Pro and the Lisa may share a place in Apple’s legacy going forward, and the impact of AI and automation on where we’ve been and where we are going. (Part 2)

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Show Notes:


05:23 Sharing the Story
09:23 Fear and Excitement of AI
13:35 Prioritizing Values
21:38 The Evolution of AI
25:04 Viewing Options
27:03 Diverse Discussions


Before Macintosh: The Apple Lisa - Vimeo Link


David Greelish is a Computer Historian, Writer & Media Producer. He has studied computer history, collected old computers and written about them for over 25 years now. In 1993, he founded the Historical Computer Society and published a fanzine called Historically Brewed. In 2010, he founded the Atlanta Historical Computing Society and was the Director of the first Vintage Computer Festival Southeast in 2013. His book, Classic Computing: The Complete Historically Brewed contains all of his computer history zines, plus his personal story. He has written extensively about computer history, created and participated in numerous podcasts, plus conducted both audio and written interviews with notable people in the industry, like: Ed Roberts, John Sculley, Alan Kay and more. He has also presented at numerous vintage computing conventions. Find out more at Dave’s web site, Classic Computing, follow him on Twitter, and check out his Love Notes to Newton documentary.


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