The talk of the Apple community

MacVoices Live! digs into the DOJ action against Apple to try to understand what is behind it. Chuck JoinerDavid GinsburgBen RoethigJim ReaMarty JenciusBrian Flanigan-ArthursWeb BixbyMark Fuccio, and Jeff Gamet consider the made-up categories of the iPhone market, the questionable quality of the complaint as a competent legal document, and more. The panel considers a unique theory, the pleadings that are obviously wrong, and more. (Part 1) 

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Show Notes:

Chapters:11:34 Questionable Allegations and Pricing Debate
15:40 A Flawed Lawsuit Strategy
20:09 Speculation on Political Intent
24:49 Political Grandstanding or Legal Misstep?
27:05 Lingering Effects of Legal Battle


Justice Department Risks Picking the Wrong Fight With Apple

Next-Gen Apple CarPlay Forcing Driver Instrument Cluster Takeover Triggers Lawsuit

mThe ‘landmark’ Apple lawsuit ignores two realities

Why the Biden Administration Is Suing Apple and Investigating Big Grocers

DOJ Pleadings 

Understanding the DOJ’s Antitrust Complaint Against Apple 


Web Bixby has been in the insurance business for 40 years and has been an Apple user for longer than that.You can catch up with him on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn.

Mark Fuccio is actively involved in high tech startup companies, both as a principle at, or as a marketing advisor through his consulting practice Tactics Sells High Tech, Inc. Mark was a proud investor in Microsoft from the mid-1990's selling in mid 2000, and hopes one day that MSFT will be again an attractive investment. You can contact Mark through Twitter, LinkedIn, or on Mastodon.

Jeff Gamet is a technology blogger, podcaster, author, and public speaker. Previously, he was The Mac Observer’s Managing Editor, and the TextExpander Evangelist for Smile. He has presented at Macworld Expo, RSA Conference, several WordCamp events, along with many other conferences. You can find him on several podcasts such as The Mac Show, The Big Show, MacVoices, Mac OS Ken, This Week in iOS, and more. Jeff is easy to find on social media as @jgamet on Twitter and Instagram, jeffgamet on LinkedIn., on Mastodon, and on his YouTube Channel at

David Ginsburg is the host of the weekly podcast In Touch With iOS where he discusses all things iOS, iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, Apple Watch, and related technologies. He is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users. Visit his YouTube channel at and find and follow him on Twitter @daveg65 and on Mastodon at

Dr. Marty Jencius has been an Associate Professor of Counseling at Kent State University since 2000. He has over 120 publications in books, chapters, journal articles, and others, along with 200 podcasts related to counseling, counselor education, and faculty life. His technology interest led him to develop the counseling profession ‘firsts,’ including listservs, a web-based peer-reviewed journal, The Journal of Technology in Counseling, teaching and conferencing in virtual worlds as the founder of Counselor Education in Second Life, and podcast founder/producer of and Currently, he produces a podcast about counseling and life questions, the Circular Firing Squad, and digital video interviews with legacies capturing the history of the counseling field. Generally, Marty is chasing the newest tech trends, which explains his interest in A.I. for teaching, research, and productivity. Marty is an active presenter and past president of the NorthEast Ohio Apple Corp (NEOAC).

Jim Rea built his own computer from scratch in 1975, started programming in 1977, and has been an independent Mac developer continuously since 1984. He is the founder of ProVUE Development, and the author of Panorama X, ProVUE's ultra fast RAM based database software for the macOS platform. He’s been a speaker at MacTech, MacWorld Expo and other industry conferences. Follow Jim at and via on Mastodon.

Ben Roethig has been in the Apple Ecosystem since the System 7 Days. He is the a former Associate Editor with Geek Beat, Co-Founder of The Tech Hangout and Deconstruct and currently shares his thoughts on RoethigTech. Contact him on  Twitter and Mastodon.


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00:11:34 Questionable Allegations and Pricing Debate 00:15:40 A Flawed Lawsuit Strategy 00:20:09 Speculation on Political Intent 00:24:49 Political Grandstanding or Legal Misstep? 00:27:05 Lingering Effects of Legal Battle

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